I'm quite open minded when it comes to music, but I can't find a single thing positive about this song, its just so dreadfully bland!
I'm retiring from charity work.
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Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
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Re: I'm retiring from charity work.
If the weeks pay is determined by playing covers then yesrobthemac wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:31 amI was a covers-band whore from 15 through 27 years of age. For the money I was making as a teenage muso, I would play whatever the fuck the punters wanted.
I’ll have a dig through and see if I can find some ‘90s set lists
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I'll never forget the time the Mint Chicks soundguy throttled me by the scruff of my shirt (literal chokehold), guitar in hand heading to the stage, and told me to finish by 9pm, not a second over, or he'd pull the effing plug because "I'm not here for you, I'm here for the Mint Chicks" - I so regret not braining him with my axe.
Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).
Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.
I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right
Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).
Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.
I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right
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Re: I'm retiring from charity work.
I thought you were Reuben from the Mint ChicksMogwaiBoy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 am I'll never forget the time the Mint Chicks soundguy throttled me by the scruff of my shirt (literal chokehold), guitar in hand heading to the stage, and told me to finish by 9pm, not a second over, or he'd pull the effing plug because "I'm not here for you, I'm here for the Mint Chicks" - I so regret not braining him with my axe.
Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).
Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.
I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right
Well I never
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Millions disagree with you.
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This!Dharmajester wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:01 am
When you cross that line of being more irked by the associated crap than elevated by the joy of playing it's time to back away.
And I'm still playing; that will never stop.
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You give him too much credit. His wife was there.
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No, it's a Bob Dylan song. There are no limitations to how you interpret it. It's excellent raw material if you're good enough.
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Millions voted for Trump!crowbgood1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:33 amMillions disagree with you.
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
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And on that note, given modern pop music is constructed to appeal to the masses rather than for its value as art, the masses are philistines with no actual love for music.jeremyb wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:01 amMillions voted for Trump!
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Being a junkie in Portland didn't appeal to mefoal30 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:12 amI thought you were Reuben from the Mint ChicksMogwaiBoy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 am I'll never forget the time the Mint Chicks soundguy throttled me by the scruff of my shirt (literal chokehold), guitar in hand heading to the stage, and told me to finish by 9pm, not a second over, or he'd pull the effing plug because "I'm not here for you, I'm here for the Mint Chicks" - I so regret not braining him with my axe.
Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).
Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.
I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right
Well I never
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Oh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !
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Excellent point.StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pm Oh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !
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You guys target the crowds who shout "play us something none of us know"StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pmOh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !
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Wow, that’s my dream audience. Did not know it actually existed somewhere.robthemac wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:45 pmYou guys target the crowds who shout "play us something none of us know"StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pmOh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !