Epiphone valve Junior..

TMG 03 · Post by **TMG 03** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:40 pm

I was looking in the RS today listening to a PA.
Man it sounded good with the CD in it. On the list of toys to get. But the Sub does make a big difference.

Post by Bg » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:58 pm

TMG 03 wrote:I was looking in the RS today listening to a PA.
Man it sounded good with the CD in it. On the list of toys to get. But the Sub does make a big difference.

Behringer?

Post by **GrantB** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:30 pm

Does the Behringer PA gear get bad write ups? We use a Behringer desk into some huge powered Proels (and a sub) and the sound is nothing short of crystaline and huge...mind you, with the crystaline comes sterility a bit. Our old Fender desk was certainly warmer, but less reliable.

Post by Bg » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:03 pm

nah its a brand snob thing - I've not heard bad reports about the PA gear, which is why its on my list at the moment

You use powered Proels rather than a seperate amp? What sort of power output have you got?

rocklander · Post by **rocklander** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:11 pm

when we were looking at PA gear we found there's definitely two distinct schools of thought on that huh. lotsa ppl seem to like the powered speakers, but it must be the geek in me that likes the idea of the central administration of one place to go to change the overall levels.. I suppose it's also a single point of failure, and the input signal is still controlled by the desk so nothing lost really... just heavier speakers heh.

Post by Bg » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:30 pm

I like the more modular idea of seperate amps, mixer and speakers - more complex but you can buy it piecemeal

rocklander · Post by **rocklander** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:21 pm

bluesgeek wrote:you can buy it piecemeal

add Â½ price, and ability to bolt together and I'm in!

Post by **GrantB** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:41 pm

1200 watts in the front and 600 watt single sub.

The reason we went powered was for reliability...as you say rocklander the desk does control overall volume so you wind these things up to 3/4 and do everything from the desk...it's a good option and somewhat modular - very small gigs we take one speaker and a 6 channel desk...next size up is the front of house but no sub...then the full monty. The proels have buckets of volume.

This is one of 2 systems we use though - the other is a real step up but cost many times more - Crown amps, JBL speakers...full rack of compressors, eq's etc...sounds amazing - the bass is sphincter loosening!

Post by Bg » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:50 pm

sounds pretty good to me

rocklander · Post by **rocklander** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:01 pm

*UNIQUE* wrote:1200 watts in the front and 600 watt single sub.

The reason we went powered was for reliability...as you say rocklander the desk does control overall volume so you wind these things up to 3/4 and do everything from the desk...it's a good option and somewhat modular - very small gigs we take one speaker and a 6 channel desk...next size up is the front of house but no sub...then the full monty. The proels have buckets of volume.

This is one of 2 systems we use though - the other is a real step up but cost many times more - Crown amps, JBL speakers...full rack of compressors, eq's etc...sounds amazing - the bass is sphincter loosening!

nice stuff.. in my previous band we had an all Mackie system along similar lines.. 24 channel desk and 2X powered subs and 2X powered 15" (or were they 12? don't remember), but starting the current band, price dictated that I'd get the gigrac1000 and jbl passives with a powered jbl sub... seems to have a very nice sound, but we ensure we only mic up the vocals.. if anything else needs micing, we hire in an engineer and serious PA.

Post by **GrantB** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:17 am

YEah same...we used Click Sound here in Hamilton quite a bit...nice guys and good gear. But it's a rare gig that we need to fully mic up...

played tonight to a ravenous crowd of 180 - could have played a kazoo and they'd have danced. Great fun when that happens. My newly completed, and soon to be shown off, pedal board of mass destruction AND doom was so good to use. No more fecking around wiring everything up for every gig...and no more tone sucking (using a loopmaster)...

Post by Bg » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:29 am

way to go mate

give us a shout next time/if you're playing north of the border, would be good to catch up

rocklander · Post by **rocklander** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:00 am

*UNIQUE* wrote:...played tonight to a ravenous crowd of 180 - could have played a kazoo and they'd have danced. Great fun when that happens.

nice alright - it's especially great when the crowd is predominantly women (esp teachers and/or nurses) they just WANT to party and dance all night.

will keep click sound in mind as we've a corp gig in Cambridge coming up next year. Have used Noel Lamberton here in Vegas and he's just bloody brilliant and very reasonable prices. He appreciates that it's just not right when the musos doing the actual performance gets paid less than the engineer that turns up with the (albeit expensive) kit. bl00dy nice guy too..

crushing day · Post by **crushing day** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:16 pm

how about that valve junior eh

Jenesis · Post by **Jenesis** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:46 pm

The what now?