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GM bought it from Greeney who reckons it was a pig to play anyway, and even though GM owned it for much longer than Greeney did, it's still referred to as the Greeney LP - of course Guitarcenter own it now anyway as Gary had to sell it to finance a cancelled tour. Incidentally, the pickup had a flipped magnet, apparently done in error, not reverse wired.Hellhound_in_my_ale wrote:Nice taste, last 3 guys![]()
YES!!! His guitar playing is only matched by his vocals. Gary Moore learned everything he knows from Greeny, as well as inheriting his Les Paul (the one with the reverse wired neck pup) - "The Supernatural" circa 1967? (from "A Hard Road" by John Mayall's Bluesbreakers) contains probably the first ultra long sustained note that wound up in Moore's lickabulary . Too bad he went skitzo in the 70s.Carnage wrote:Peter Green
Some of the Splinter Group stuff is pretty good, but face it, he was never going to recapture the magic he had before the fame got to him.
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I've heard a million different versions of how Greeny's Les Paul sounds like it does, but according to Geoff Whitehorn of Guitar Techniques Magazine March '02 "Peter's 'out of phase' sound came about by accident. He'd sent his Les Paul for repair, and the tech managed to wire the neck pickup the wrong way around. Peter liked the tone and left it that way, and created one of the most famous sounds ever. The tech also put the pickup back upside down, which some people think makes a tonal difference. It dosn't!"bluesgeek wrote: Incidentally, the pickup had a flipped magnet, apparently done in error, not reverse wired.
Unfortunatley I don't own a 'real' Les Paul and I managed to do a botched repair job on my Epiphone copy

Pretty near impossible to nail it down to just a few. but here goes. (mind you by the time I post this I might be off onto another tangent and have a completely different list)
James Solbeg
Buddy Miller
Jimmy Thackery
Derek Trucks
Bob Margolin
A couple of almost unknowns
Toby Walker (acoustic fingerstyle)
Joe Price
and a cast of thousands
oopsies almost forgot,, Roy Buchanan..
James Solbeg
Buddy Miller
Jimmy Thackery
Derek Trucks
Bob Margolin
A couple of almost unknowns
Toby Walker (acoustic fingerstyle)
Joe Price
and a cast of thousands
oopsies almost forgot,, Roy Buchanan..
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Geoff has it wrong thenHellhound_in_my_ale wrote:I've heard a million different versions of how Greeny's Les Paul sounds like it does, but according to Geoff Whitehorn of Guitar Techniques Magazine March '02 "Peter's 'out of phase' sound came about by accident. He'd sent his Les Paul for repair, and the tech managed to wire the neck pickup the wrong way around. Peter liked the tone and left it that way, and created one of the most famous sounds ever. The tech also put the pickup back upside down, which some people think makes a tonal difference. It dosn't!"bluesgeek wrote: Incidentally, the pickup had a flipped magnet, apparently done in error, not reverse wired.
Unfortunatley I don't own a 'real' Les Paul and I managed to do a botched repair job on my Epiphone copy. Now I probably have to change all the electronics........so I can't test this out but if you end up fiddling around with your LP someday, let us know. It'll be one of the first mods I do when I can afford the real thing.

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Neither magnet flip or reverse phase wiring should make a difference to the sound from one or the other PU alone. The effect occurs when both PUs are on together. That may be what hellhound's quote was referring to.bluesgeek wrote:Geoff has it wrong thenHellhound_in_my_ale wrote:I've heard a million different versions of how Greeny's Les Paul sounds like it does, but according to Geoff Whitehorn of Guitar Techniques Magazine March '02 "Peter's 'out of phase' sound came about by accident. He'd sent his Les Paul for repair, and the tech managed to wire the neck pickup the wrong way around. Peter liked the tone and left it that way, and created one of the most famous sounds ever. The tech also put the pickup back upside down, which some people think makes a tonal difference. It dosn't!"bluesgeek wrote: Incidentally, the pickup had a flipped magnet, apparently done in error, not reverse wired.
Unfortunatley I don't own a 'real' Les Paul and I managed to do a botched repair job on my Epiphone copy. Now I probably have to change all the electronics........so I can't test this out but if you end up fiddling around with your LP someday, let us know. It'll be one of the first mods I do when I can afford the real thing.
its almost universally acknowledged as a magnet flip - it does sound different to a wired out of phase. Mine has the magnet flipped. I've tried both.
IME the two tricks sound different from each other but I opted to go for a push/pull switch so I could get rid of the fuken annoying effect when I was sick of it. It's fun for about ten seconds at a time.
Having done that, when I use just the neck PU which has the push pull switch on it, you can detect a change in the sound when you flick from in-phase to out-of-phase. Maybe not the tone of the guitar itself. Could be the amp/speakers responding accordingly? Dunno. BG when you come by next I'll show you and see what you think.
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its pretty easy to just flip the magnet, but where the magic tone comes in to it is when one pup volume is overriding the other, it doesn't make a deal of difference when both volumes are on fully - so basically I'm very surprised you noticed anything Capt
As you turn the volume down on one or other there is a definite sweet spot - which is why you'll often see GM fiddling with his knobs (oo-err) when looking for the tone.
And to be honest, its the only way I'd use both pups on together, I don't really like 'middle tone' on a LP apart from that

And to be honest, its the only way I'd use both pups on together, I don't really like 'middle tone' on a LP apart from that

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But you're a gimp. I love the middle position sound on an LP. With the polarity flipped and both vols up full you get that nasal quack strat sound which is kinda fun for effect but I actually back the neck PU off and the sound fattens up a whole lot but the lows get cancelled out. That gives a great cut through lead tone.bluesgeek wrote:its pretty easy to just flip the magnet, but where the magic tone comes in to it is when one pup volume is overriding the other, it doesn't make a deal of difference when both volumes are on fully - so basically I'm very surprised you noticed anything CaptAs you turn the volume down on one or other there is a definite sweet spot - which is why you'll often see GM fiddling with his knobs (oo-err) when looking for the tone.
And to be honest, its the only way I'd use both pups on together, I don't really like 'middle tone' on a LP apart from that
It is a fair bit different to the magnet flip which I tried for a while but I only have two guitars so I wanted to be able to switch it on when I wanted.
I still don't think you get what I'm on about so I'll show you when you bring the Bombardier around for some therapy.
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indeed...a listen to the early Ronson (Bowie)albums, "Man who sold the world", "Hunky Dory" and even "Ziggy" and we some archetypes that many of the early 70's rock/metal bads would learn fromcheeseboy777 wrote: Mick Ronson. Come on, the riff at the start of Panic in Detroit is a rock classic!
Even more interesting tho....how about Bowie as a guitarist.
The guitar work on Diamond Dogs is exemplary...Rebel Rebel is one of the great riffs of all time.
Theres a great story of John McEnroe (the tennis guy) at home in Switzerland, trying to play Rebel Rebel on a Les Paul and Marshall...cranked up and annoying his neighbour....who turned out to be Bowie, who then came over and showed him how tpo play it right

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