New Amps for Good Kicking

[badmotor]

when i had it going i found about 6 new faults

Jesus.

[Vorbis]

http://www.marshallamps.com/product_ran ... geNumber=1

They're bringing back the DSL... with a 15W head option.

They're also going to be making them in Vietnam.

Thoughts?

Rebadged Marshall Haze? The haze was a 15w 6v6 which had good cleans and sounded like bollocks overdriven. I hated mine a lot.

[Danger Mouse]

I think it's partially the perception that guitarists don't WANT innovation from Marshall, though. They want the same old JTM, same old Plexi, etc.

One of the best amps they've designed in the modern era (IMO) is the Vintage Modern, which is like a hotrodded JTM, but so much more. It's largely been ignored by the general populace because Marshall dared to introduce a dual gain structure which kids who set everything to 10 can't get a good sound out of...

Also, JVM is modern era too?

They've also got the digital preamp series (JMD) which isn't really catching on either (except as a bit of a practice amp) - cos nobody wants a modelling Marshall from Marshall!

That said, I know what you mean - but there have at least been some improvements and innovations.

It''s the reason why we now have Blackstar, which was started by a group of ex-Marshall employees frustrated by the reluctance of Marshall to try new things. Half the problem with Marshall is there certainly the perception that they can't innovate, they've tried to keep up with what's hot in the market a few times and failed miserably.

[jeremyb]

How's Marshall any different to Gibson I reckon, stick with what sells and occasionally release some horrific abortions, sorted!

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Interchange fender for Gibson, Vox for Marshall etc....

[Daza152]

Interchange fender for Gibson, Vox for Marshall etc....

I reckon we have just had this coversation not that long ago like yesterday, Fender and Marshall rock...remember mate?

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Interchange fender for Gibson, Vox for Marshall etc....

I reckon we have just had this coversation not that long ago like yesterday, Fender and Marshall rock...remember mate?

No, different conversation and different meaning... Fender don't innovate either and neither do Vox. Completely different subject, did you read the rest of this thread?

[slash-ed]

I think it's partially the perception that guitarists don't WANT innovation from Marshall, though. They want the same old JTM, same old Plexi, etc.

One of the best amps they've designed in the modern era (IMO) is the Vintage Modern, which is like a hotrodded JTM, but so much more. It's largely been ignored by the general populace because Marshall dared to introduce a dual gain structure which kids who set everything to 10 can't get a good sound out of...

Also, JVM is modern era too?

They've also got the digital preamp series (JMD) which isn't really catching on either (except as a bit of a practice amp) - cos nobody wants a modelling Marshall from Marshall!

That said, I know what you mean - but there have at least been some improvements and innovations.

It''s the reason why we now have Blackstar, which was started by a group of ex-Marshall employees frustrated by the reluctance of Marshall to try new things. Half the problem with Marshall is there certainly the perception that they can't innovate, they've tried to keep up with what's hot in the market a few times and failed miserably.

That being said, I haven't played a Blackstar that has "wowed" me yet... so maybe Marshall is already as good as it gets? Without getting boutiquey.

[jeremyb]

HD500.

[The Scarecrow]

I like the general tone of DSL's. For the right price (i.e . the half-grand mark) they can be good amps if looked after, but for the history of inherent issues, I would never have one as my main rig.

I used to be a Marshall fanboy, but to me, the last great innovative amp that I heard from them was the 30th anniversary head in the early 90's. Having owned a JCM 800, 900 and DSL 100, I can honestly say the early 80's 800 was the best of the bunch in terms of sound and quality. I find all their modern amps to be rather horribly fizzy sounding like ripped cardboard. Only one I've not disliked was the Vintage Modern.

They do seem to be stuck in a bit of a time warp, but I wager their stuff still sells to a different generation of players now.

[MogwaiBoy]

The fact that the DSL15 has similar specs to the Haze 15 is def concerning

Also they have apparently discontinued the Class 5 for this new DSL series. Can any Rockshoppers confirm?

In terms of Marshall reliability... The only Marshall products I own are a Jackhammer pedal and a 1974CX cab. Both are great

They were doing new JTM45s for $2K not that long ago - what's the word on the newer Marshall handwired reissues?

[capt abaham]

i love my Mk111 JCM 900

dial the diodes in or out, not a bad sound on that amp

[The Scarecrow]

i love my Mk111 JCM 900

dial the diodes in or out, not a bad sound on that amp

is that the 50w dual channel job?

[capt abaham]

its the dual master volume 50 watt combo, Marshall dont even have it on there web site, it was supposed to be a JCM800 Mk 11 with an extra knob

in this case the guy playing it.



it was the first series of 900`s made for about a year, acording to the guys at the marshall forum they only made less than a thousand.

i had a dual reverb 900 for a few years, the Mk3 is a much nicer amp.


can anyone remember GuitarPlayers tube amp shoot out from the early 90s?
the top three amps were the Marshall JCM900, Matchless somthing and the Diaz.

[wilsa]

Interchange fender for Gibson, Vox for Marshall etc....

Vox has at least tried out new things and some seem to have taken off. You just to go to a few gigs in Christchurch to see how many people are using the Vox Valvetronix gear.

But I guess it is the same thing. Everyone is after that classic AC 30 or AC 15 sound but the ones you get now (made in China?) just don't live up to what you hear from a vintage British AC3 or AC15.