Line drivers and dedicated buffers

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Re: Line drivers and dedicated buffers

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bbrunskill wrote:And seriously, it’s worth either modding that Small Stone, or putting it in a little True Bypass loop, they are notorious tone suckers.
dont notice any with my green Russian :?
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Try the tuner in front of the wha. Worked for me but I have a TU2
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crowbgood1 wrote:Try the tuner in front of the wha. Worked for me but I have a TU2
So put it at toru?
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hamo wrote:
crowbgood1 wrote:Try the tuner in front of the wha. Worked for me but I have a TU2
So put it at toru?
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Sell your pitchblack and buy a Boss TU-2/3?

The pitchblacks are TB aren't they?

Then put everything else into TB loops.

Use shorter cables (if possible).

I'm no expert, but its the same old advice from everything I've ever read about fixing tone issues.
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I have 100% true bypass pedals on my board, and I do notice a bit of tone loss, will be interesting to see how it goes once I get some decent cables, might get one of those micro buffers to chuck at the beginning of the chain if its still noticeable :)
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Seen a couple build reports on other forums of people who have built Klon buffers (and ONLY the buffer) into a 1590A, with a stomp to turn the buffer on or off.
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jeremyb wrote:I have 100% true bypass pedals on my board, and I do notice a bit of tone loss, will be interesting to see how it goes once I get some decent cables, might get one of those micro buffers to chuck at the beginning of the chain if its still noticeable :)
Thats interesting - i can hear the difference using my 'Boost n Buff' buffer when it's plugged in front of my 5 loop switcher, when all the loops are bypassed - and using two quite short leads from the the guitar and too the amp. and for me to notice it - it has to be quite a difference.
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alanp wrote:Seen a couple build reports on other forums of people who have built Klon buffers (and ONLY the buffer) into a 1590A, with a stomp to turn the buffer on or off.
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http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/inde ... pic=7053.0

This guy wired his as either buffer or mute, but it's possible to wire it as buffer/nonbuffer.
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I think what bbrunskill pointed out is valid, you've already got several buffers in the chain, you only need one or two, so adding another, dedicaded or not, isn't going to help.

You should try eliminating pedals one by one to try and find out if it's one of them, or look at the order they're in!

Cables do matter, between the very cheap and the very expensive, there is a definite difference, but there is also a happy middle ground that still works fine!

I have a 10ft, into 3 pedals, then a 20ft (far too long for everywhere we play) into my amp, if all the pedals are TB, I notice the difference, the last is a TC flashback, and you can turn the buffer on and off, I have it on, and everything sounds fine, turn it off, and it's not so good after all!

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adding yet another buffer and not fixing the real issue is like a guy who takes a look at his house, notices that the paint is peeling and it looks like shit. He says ‘Bloody hell, I’d better do something about this’ and then installs a new letterbox.....

no offense meant of course!

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bbrunskill wrote:adding yet another buffer and not fixing the real issue is like a guy who takes a look at his house, notices that the paint is peeling and it looks like shit. He says ‘Bloody hell, I’d better do something about this’ and then installs a new letterbox.....

no offense meant of course!
I think Ben is insulting your Digidelay, just as he should.

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[quote="TmcB”]
I think Ben is insulting your Digidelay, just as he should.
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From memomy, a Digidelay was my very first delay pedal. I thought it was amazing and used it for quite a while, until I got pissed off at how hard it was to tap tempo, and got an Akai Headrush.

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