JCMs in General

slash-ed · Post by **slash-ed** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:08 am

Hey all,

I was wondering if someone could give me the Four-Oh (is that the right lingo?) on the 4100, or 4202, or whatever the hell else numbers the JCMs come with.

How does a JCM 800 have various other combinations of 4 other digits behind it, and how does that make it different? Same goes for JCM900...2000...

And then we have DSL and TSL to add to that. How does it all work!? Someone please de-confuse me here.

Yeh sorry i am an amp noob. But i'm sure one or two other people have been wondering, but have not asked for fearing of looking the idiot, WELL I FEAR YE NOT! The fool i will be...

Post by **Capt. Black** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:29 am

Hey slash-ed. Happy mother's day.

I had the same problem and found the following links good. Not the most detailed but great if you need to get up to speed on marshall models and when they were made.

1 - The Marshall manuals download page. The manual for each model has most variations in it:

http://www.marshallamps.com/resources/d ... dGroupId=2

2 - The Marshall history pages. Short but sweet:

http://www.marshallamps.com/heritage/ro ... rld_01.asp

3 - Dr Tube site has a page dedicated to listing schematics for all Marshall models and variations they can find and the years the were made. There is a brief description of each model variation. Very good:

http://www.drtube.com/marshall.htm

You should find all the answers on these pages.
Enjoy.

Jops · Post by **Jops** » Mon May 15, 2006 8:54 am

Yo I had a 4103 which is the 2x12 100w version. I still got the MV and lead manual on my pc if you want. PM me your email addy...

There's the 4010 50w I assume a 1x12, 4104 50w 2x12, 4001 15w (duno the speaker size) These are all variations of the 800 combos don't know much bout the 900s other than thay were pretty average. Still didn't stop Pearl Jam from using them tho...

oolaef · Post by **oolaef** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:35 pm

me thinks they are just random as model numbers that mean something to the marshall devs but not us..
i just got a jcm900 4500 which is the 50w version of the 4100 which is the 100w.. so i guess that makes sense.

jcm800 is the one channel traditional marshall type thing where jcm900 is a 2 channel hot rodded version of it.. both come under the 'vintage' series

dsl is dual super lead (2 channels) and tsl is triple super lead (3 channels).. the kinda 'modern' marshalls.

ash · Post by **ash** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:16 pm

800s are the '80s flagship, 900s are the '90s flagship and 2000s are....

There are multiple different versions in each series, distinguished by....

The four digit numbers are the design numbers and don't neccesarily have any significance outside of the factory, although there probably are some where the number was chosen for a marketing reason.

Referring to a Marshall as a JCM2000 tells you nothing other than that it was (approximately) made/designed in this decade (same for 800/900 in their respective decades).

Mine is a JCM2000 DSL201 - a 20W, 2 channel, 1x12 combo with EL84 tubes. A JCM2000 TSL100 stack is clearly a totally different animal, being a head/cab/cab with EL34s or 5881s or whatever and another channel, blah blah. About all they have in common is the colour scheme and the knobs. Even the badge is probably a different size