Ash/maple 50's pups vs Alder/Rosewood 60's pups?Molly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm Amazing how miles apart SRV's clean tone on Tin Pan Alley and Knopfler's on the first album are. I was noodlin' in the shed earlier and found I could get a decent approximation of Knopfler's tone with the '54 reissue Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. But as soon as I tried noodlin' with SRV the tone was much too thin. Both Strats and Fender amps but nothing like each other.
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Yes. I guess so. Endless variables. I may need more Strats. And more amps.Slowy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:34 pmAsh/maple 50's pups vs Alder/Rosewood 60's pups?Molly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm Amazing how miles apart SRV's clean tone on Tin Pan Alley and Knopfler's on the first album are. I was noodlin' in the shed earlier and found I could get a decent approximation of Knopfler's tone with the '54 reissue Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. But as soon as I tried noodlin' with SRV the tone was much too thin. Both Strats and Fender amps but nothing like each other.
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Got a clean boost to fatten things up a bit? Seems to be the key for me, well that and the exceptional Mr Glyns bellbirds in my Strat!Molly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm Amazing how miles apart SRV's clean tone on Tin Pan Alley and Knopfler's on the first album are. I was noodlin' in the shed earlier and found I could get a decent approximation of Knopfler's tone with the '54 reissue Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. But as soon as I tried noodlin' with SRV the tone was much too thin. Both Strats and Fender amps but nothing like each other.
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Yes. Got the EP Booster. Was thinking about a Marshall Super Lead on the way in this morning.jeremyb wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:55 amGot a clean boost to fatten things up a bit? Seems to be the key for me, well that and the exceptional Mr Glyns bellbirds in my Strat!Molly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm Amazing how miles apart SRV's clean tone on Tin Pan Alley and Knopfler's on the first album are. I was noodlin' in the shed earlier and found I could get a decent approximation of Knopfler's tone with the '54 reissue Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. But as soon as I tried noodlin' with SRV the tone was much too thin. Both Strats and Fender amps but nothing like each other.
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Wasn't SRV the guy who made the Tube Screamer the legend it is today?Molly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:28 amYes. Got the EP Booster. Was thinking about a Marshall Super Lead on the way in this morning.jeremyb wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:55 amGot a clean boost to fatten things up a bit? Seems to be the key for me, well that and the exceptional Mr Glyns bellbirds in my Strat!Molly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm Amazing how miles apart SRV's clean tone on Tin Pan Alley and Knopfler's on the first album are. I was noodlin' in the shed earlier and found I could get a decent approximation of Knopfler's tone with the '54 reissue Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. But as soon as I tried noodlin' with SRV the tone was much too thin. Both Strats and Fender amps but nothing like each other.
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I think so and, IIRC, he also had gain set at minimum, and used it as a boost.Danger Mouse wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:05 amWasn't SRV the guy who made the Tube Screamer the legend it is today?
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Huh, I was going to say that SRV used a compressor but it seems he didn't, the compression came from the Tube Screamer. Pays to check before making the big statements! A Dumble amp might help.
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Tone, in Knopfler's case, lots of fingerpicking, light touch . SRV by contrast, heavy handed mofo.Molly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm Amazing how miles apart SRV's clean tone on Tin Pan Alley and Knopfler's on the first album are. I was noodlin' in the shed earlier and found I could get a decent approximation of Knopfler's tone with the '54 reissue Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. But as soon as I tried noodlin' with SRV the tone was much too thin. Both Strats and Fender amps but nothing like each other.
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SRV's tone is fingers and VOLUME
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and big strings, 13s.
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Yes that was my understanding, he was the first to really take the TS and run it as a boost, which is now common even in the high gain metalhead community.codedog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:14 amI think so and, IIRC, he also had gain set at minimum, and used it as a boost.Danger Mouse wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:05 amWasn't SRV the guy who made the Tube Screamer the legend it is today?
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11s in Eb do just fine. Higher action helps though, definitely don’t want any fret buzz in there.
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This is an interesting discussion: Philip Sayce and Jesse Davey, two guys who know a bit about the sound
https://youtu.be/wg7-wl9shZE
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https://youtu.be/wg7-wl9shZE
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