Close micing tom toms

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Close micing tom toms

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I usually use the "leftover" mic's to close mic the tom's or rely on the overheads and room mic's to capture the tom tom action.

I'm looking at buying some mic's specifically for close micing my studio set - 12", 14" rack and a 18" floor tom.

Please chip in with any advice, I'm all ears.
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Re: Close micing tom toms

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Back in the day I used 421's on toms...but I only had two mics for 2 toms. Lately I've had great results from fairly inexpensive SE brand small condensors. They're fairly unobtrusive and you can use them for all sorts of other things. The small condensor pencil mic is very versatile and under used these days in my opinion.

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philly wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:46 pm Back in the day I used 421's on toms...but I only had two mics for 2 toms. Lately I've had great results from fairly inexpensive SE brand small condensors. They're fairly unobtrusive and you can use them for all sorts of other things. The small condensor pencil mic is very versatile and under used these days in my opinion.

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I've got a couple of AKG P170's. They are definitely entry level but I will give them a run on the rack toms.
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I have a rode NT5 that I'm parting with if that's of interest.

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philly wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:46 pm Back in the day I used 421's on toms...but I only had two mics for 2 toms. Lately I've had great results from fairly inexpensive SE brand small condensors. They're fairly unobtrusive and you can use them for all sorts of other things. The small condensor pencil mic is very versatile and under used these days in my opinion.

Hope this helps
I agree with this notion. We found small condensers gave the attack we wanted on the toms better than anything else we tried. We were even using the Behringer cheapies.
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CAD M179s sound awesome on toms too. They’re a medium diaphragm condenser. They used to be fairly cheap, but there’s no official rep here any more.

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Getting fairly good results from the P170's.

Maybe the M179 for the big 18" on the floor.
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Zaulkin wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:44 am I have a rode NT5 that I'm parting with if that's of interest.
Is that you on trade me?
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crowbgood1 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:39 pm
Zaulkin wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:44 am I have a rode NT5 that I'm parting with if that's of interest.
Is that you on trade me?
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Zaulkin wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:31 pm
crowbgood1 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:39 pm
Zaulkin wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:44 am I have a rode NT5 that I'm parting with if that's of interest.
Is that you on trade me?
That'll be me yeah. Still another day of free fees.
A lack of a pad might be a bit hot for close micing drums.
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crowbgood1 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:05 pm
Zaulkin wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:31 pm
crowbgood1 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:39 pm

Is that you on trade me?
That'll be me yeah. Still another day of free fees.
A lack of a pad might be a bit hot for close micing drums.
I'm not up to speed with all of that unfortunately - wish I could make a proper recommendation.

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hi
I have a set of CAD mics in a case, with rim clips for the toms/snare

https://www.cadaudio.com/products/Percussion/stage4

brand new condition make me a lowball offer and they are yours.
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Lawrence wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:50 am hi
I have a set of CAD mics in a case, with rim clips for the toms/snare

https://www.cadaudio.com/products/Percussion/stage4

brand new condition make me a lowball offer and they are yours.
Thanks for the offer but not really what I'm after.
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I also like condensers on toms. Have had excellent sucess with the mini condensers from Audio Technica, they have a lovely clean attack and are very wide band, so you can EQ a lot to find the sound you want. Think they are an ATM350, but there is or was a cheaper version called the Pro35. Incidentally, the Pro37 is an outstanding mini condenser too, highly recommended.

57’s are good tom mics too, but the long body is awkward for live use. Sennheiser e604 and e904 are good but I still prefer the mini condenser type

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rickenbackerkid wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:50 pm I also like condensers on toms. Have had excellent sucess with the mini condensers from Audio Technica, they have a lovely clean attack and are very wide band, so you can EQ a lot to find the sound you want. Think they are an ATM350, but there is or was a cheaper version called the Pro35. Incidentally, the Pro37 is an outstanding mini condenser too, highly recommended.

57’s are good tom mics too, but the long body is awkward for live use. Sennheiser e604 and e904 are good but I still prefer the mini condenser type
Thanks! I have just ordered an Audio Technica ATM450 so will give it a go and maybe get another couple if it gels. I'm still really interested why the Sennheiser MD421-II made such an impact, back in the day, but $750 is a big outlay only going by reputation.
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