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You won't hear Devilskin on Hauraki, they're far too hipster electronica these days.
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that'll be why he's changing from national AND hauraki to the rock ...hopefully he can last through the chilli's, foo's, pearl jam long enough to actually hear something (not that I have ever heard devilskin played....well I've never made it through even to the foo's)Danger Mouse wrote:You won't hear Devilskin on Hauraki, they're far too hipster electronica these days.
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God, I think it was when The Rock started playing the Chilli's as every other song that I finally lost my reason and moved on to another channel for goodwillow13 wrote:...hopefully he can last through the chilli's, foo's, pearl jam long enough to actually hear something (not that I have ever heard devilskin played....well I've never made it through even to the foo's)
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You don't even have a point because it's based on an assumption about me that isn't true, and if you don't listen to the axe attack, then you also don't have a clue about the self promotional stuff I'm talking about, so not sure how you can comment on that either, but good for you though!willow13 wrote:oh no you totally got my pointaliasceiza wrote:
Really? Get what? If you're implying sour grapes because we're not opening for them on this tour, then you're wrong, the band split last Christmas, otherwise, I'm not sure of your point?
well it should change your points really....you implied that they are only where they are because paul is the mouth piece pulling strings to get their name out there, yet xcaptx points out they have actually worked their asses off for 4 or 5 yrs building a fan base from the ground up.....If you can't see the flaws in your argument then my above post is even closer to the point than even I realisedaliasceiza wrote:
That's a fare point, they have been gigging hard over the last few years, we've been playing with them since the Waihi battle of the bands, must be at least 3 years ago...doesn't change my previous points though!
I personally had never heard of them until about 4 weeks ago (Unlike you I don't listen to the axe attack but do listen to the morning rumble every now and then....and they have have only really talked about the band since the album dropped from what I have heard anyway)
You like them, I don't, just nevermind.
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Ah yes, of course...willow13 wrote:that'll be why he's changing from national AND hauraki to the rock ..Danger Mouse wrote:You won't hear Devilskin on Hauraki, they're far too hipster electronica these days.
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I'm really suprised at this statement. Don't know the rest of the band but I've known Paul for about 25 years and he's one of the absolute nicest guys I've ever met. Gave me my first guitar lessons when I was a teenager and did it on the cheap because I was on the dole and was massively encouraging of my (terrible) playing and writing.aliasceiza wrote: I've met them all, we opened for them on their last tour, and their attitude is dismal to say the least.
aliasceiza wrote: Along with the averageness, it's the shameless self promosion a certain member gets away with...if he wasn't who he is, the band would be nothing...at least Shihad has earned every one of their fans, and deserves the credit people giv them!
So Paul shouldn't do for his own band what he does for every other kiwi metal band out there? How many years has the Axe Attack been going and what's the % of NZ content? I've seen him interview and play kiwi bands that I know he's totally not a fan of because he thinks that anyone who has the guts to go and put themselves out there deserves a break.aliasceiza wrote: But that is the sad part about it...if Paul Martin wasn't in the band, using his position and influence to give them the lift they're getting, they'd be nothing, so their success has nothing to do with their songs.
Also if Devilskin's current success is totally down to his magical power and influence over the Rock and it's listeners being so great wouldn't the band he fronts (World War 4) have an equal profile? Devilskin isn't my favourite project of his that he's been involved in but there's obviously a lot of people out there who like and enjoy what they're doing.
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... what would you know ...matman wrote:I'm really suprised at this statement. Don't know the rest of the band but I've known Paul for about 25 years and he's one of the absolute nicest guys I've ever met. Gave me my first guitar lessons when I was a teenager and did it on the cheap because I was on the dole and was massively encouraging of my (terrible) playing and writing.aliasceiza wrote: I've met them all, we opened for them on their last tour, and their attitude is dismal to say the least.
aliasceiza wrote: Along with the averageness, it's the shameless self promosion a certain member gets away with...if he wasn't who he is, the band would be nothing...at least Shihad has earned every one of their fans, and deserves the credit people giv them!So Paul shouldn't do for his own band what he does for every other kiwi metal band out there? How many years has the Axe Attack been going and what's the % of NZ content? I've seen him interview and play kiwi bands that I know he's totally not a fan of because he thinks that anyone who has the guts to go and put themselves out there deserves a break.aliasceiza wrote: But that is the sad part about it...if Paul Martin wasn't in the band, using his position and influence to give them the lift they're getting, they'd be nothing, so their success has nothing to do with their songs.
Also if Devilskin's current success is totally down to his magical power and influence over the Rock and it's listeners being so great wouldn't the band he fronts (World War 4) have an equal profile? Devilskin isn't my favourite project of his that he's been involved in but there's obviously a lot of people out there who like and enjoy what they're doing.
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Just saying : Devilskin have played in Masterton twice now. Each time they sold 350 tickets and had a massive happy crowd. They must be doing something right.
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Yeah those are calculated based on how much money the label is willing to pay to keep Miley on the top of the chartsPastasauce wrote: Obviously sales charts are different.
That's pretty much what anyone who's seen them says.sty wrote: Shihad are a funny band for me, when I arrived here and discovered The Rock I kept hearing them and how people thought they were "amaze balls" as the kids would say, didn't get it myself. Then I saw them at Southern Amp 2 at the old AMI Stadium here in CHCH and they were amazing and I got it, they're a live band first and foremost. Seeing them a few times after that at the town hall confirmed that for me and I've liked their stuff since then.
Anyone who tells me they don't like Shihad pretty much ALWAYS have then said they've never seen em live. Which is fair enough, why would you go watch a band if you dislike the songs that you've heard from them.
Shame about the Sabbath shows, I know they were super pumped about that tour, maybe an off night? I've seen em about 5/6 times now and it's just amazing every time
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Have listened to a bit of Devilskin in light of this track. Personally does nothing for me; as was mentioned earlier, it's a sound which is firmly rooted around the early 2000's to my ears. I stopped listening to that post-millenial metal over a decade ago, but I can totally see how they would do okay with a bogan demographic.
To me, the main appeal is that they've got a bird in front, which is something a bit different in a metal band (to a lesser degree, remember how popular Tadpole was back around the early 2000's) and she can actually do a few good things with her voice. Nothing I'd probably want to see myself, but they do the sound they do pretty solidly.
Not won over by new Shihad really though. Possibly will grown on me with time.
To me, the main appeal is that they've got a bird in front, which is something a bit different in a metal band (to a lesser degree, remember how popular Tadpole was back around the early 2000's) and she can actually do a few good things with her voice. Nothing I'd probably want to see myself, but they do the sound they do pretty solidly.
Not won over by new Shihad really though. Possibly will grown on me with time.
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The Scarecrow wrote:Have listened to a bit of Devilskin in light of this track. Personally does nothing for me; as was mentioned earlier, it's a sound which is firmly rooted around the early 2000's to my ears. I stopped listening to that post-millenial metal over a decade ago, but I can totally see how they would do okay with a bogan demographic (because the chick has a nice set of jugs).
To me, the main appeal is that they've got a bird in front (with a nice set of jugs), which is something a bit different in a metal band (to a lesser degree, remember how popular Tadpole was back around the early 2000's) and she can actually do a few good things with her voice (and a nice set of jugs). Nothing I'd probably want to see myself (besides a nice set of jugs), but they do the sound they do pretty solidly.
Not won over by new Shihad really though. Possibly will grown on me with time (but they'd do better with a nice set of jugs).
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Does anyone want to link to a pic of the jugs in question? I seem to be having trouble locating them.
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The obvious difference between Devilskin and worldwar4 and BlackJack etc is the commercially marketable product that is Devilskin, so I'd take a punt and guess the rock management didn't allow the previous bands to be pushed so hard.matman wrote:I'm really suprised at this statement. Don't know the rest of the band but I've known Paul for about 25 years and he's one of the absolute nicest guys I've ever met. Gave me my first guitar lessons when I was a teenager and did it on the cheap because I was on the dole and was massively encouraging of my (terrible) playing and writing.aliasceiza wrote: I've met them all, we opened for them on their last tour, and their attitude is dismal to say the least.
aliasceiza wrote: Along with the averageness, it's the shameless self promosion a certain member gets away with...if he wasn't who he is, the band would be nothing...at least Shihad has earned every one of their fans, and deserves the credit people giv them!So Paul shouldn't do for his own band what he does for every other kiwi metal band out there? How many years has the Axe Attack been going and what's the % of NZ content? I've seen him interview and play kiwi bands that I know he's totally not a fan of because he thinks that anyone who has the guts to go and put themselves out there deserves a break.aliasceiza wrote: But that is the sad part about it...if Paul Martin wasn't in the band, using his position and influence to give them the lift they're getting, they'd be nothing, so their success has nothing to do with their songs.
Also if Devilskin's current success is totally down to his magical power and influence over the Rock and it's listeners being so great wouldn't the band he fronts (World War 4) have an equal profile? Devilskin isn't my favourite project of his that he's been involved in but there's obviously a lot of people out there who like and enjoy what they're doing.
An assumption of course, and I didn't say Paul was magic, just that his position has given the band the lift that carried them to where they are, that's what I believe, you can disagree, you're allowed.
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This is pissing me off enormously. It all started when they got Havoc on board.Danger Mouse wrote:You won't hear Devilskin on Hauraki, they're far too hipster electronica these days.
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Radio sucks, until I can find a station that plays Beyonce and Lamb Of God I'm gonna struggle to listen to it!
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